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Jun 13, 2022

Update

Amazingly I found a local, only an hour and half away, installer who is a determined fellow and I highly recommend for northern WI. He took pictures of my installation and said it was the most creative he had ever seen. Really ?, who wraps the junction in plastic wrap and keeps in a tool box, mostly closed supported by a chair on a slope area with the router in two plastic bags tied to a bench for weather protection.?Powered from a 50 ft extension line.

I learned that the magic length number is 300 + some feet, maybe 320 ,. He spliced the line from the dish, which was relocated to the roof. The roof pitch is 11, so every 11 inches it rises 11 inches, a young mans game as I am past the ability to climb that one. He indicated there could be snow challenges but if that happens there is no way to address in winter.

He was also a EERO dealer as well as Sonos and solved all of my network needs. We did replace the main Eero conection unit. I have 5 serving the property.

The new line was also used to lengthen the router line. The wire is UV resistant and I believe a better grade than the original.

All is good and we are in testing mode. The dish had only 5 seconds of interrruption in the first half hour compared to the past which was close to 2 minutes. There is still obstructions from trees but the range has been expanded from the impact of being on a dock and being blocked by trees on the land side.

If there are more problems I will let you know. I did check out the great comments from Media Services and their utube videos. I liked his unit to shoot across long distances.

Anyone facing WI challenges and want the contact name of the installer let me know.

Enjoy the summer.

Norm

Mar 10, 2023

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3.2023 Update - System has been running without issues. Blazing fast and faster than another location using ATT fiber. Recently Up charged for being in a congested area until new satellites are in place. See they also decreased other locations costs. EERO mesh network now has 7 units working.covering the property. Learned from EERO that that you can mix models on the same network, of course with expected limitations as to their design speeds, but they work. Been picking up 2nd hand ones and all is good. A neighbor down the road installed one after seeing mine and it is working for him.

May 17, 2022

May 17, 2022

I bought the mesh system with 3 nodes on line from Walmart. I believe the name was Deo or somf thing like that.

John Cleveland

May 16, 2022

Kelly, I have a Gen2 rectangle dish. I need to do something like your diagram, but from a dam, not from a dock. But, I can also put the router under a shed. The Gen2 doesn't have the separate power pack. I have the ethernet adapter. I am thinking of running Cat 6 from there about 170 feet to the house. So, I gather that I will have to disable the Starlink wifi and run the ethernet to a switch and wifi router in the house. Is that the case and will this setup work?

Also, I am uncomfortable leaving the cable from the dish to the router just laying on the ground, exposed to varmints, mowers, and all kinds of attacks. Starlink FAQ says that its cable is not designed for burying. Are others using conduit, or just leaving it exposed? Thanks.

May 17, 2022

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Hello John, welcome to the community! It is always good practice to protect the cable as much as possible. If you can install it in conduit then I definitely would, just make sure to get a big enough conduit to pull the factory connection through, I would say to be safe 2' inside diameter. If it's to tight then you may have a hard time getting the connections around the corners/elbows possibly damaging them and in the future if you do need to pull a new line it will be much easier to do so. Critters sometimes do damage the cable when left exposed. more so on the ground were young curious types like puppies love to chew. The other big cable damage area is falling branches for those in tree areas and sliding snow for us further north and in the mountains.

Your plan sounds good to me, there is quickly becoming a lot of options for the Starlink system. Wired connections are always best so your plan sounds good, however there are a number wireless options that cost 1/2 the price and will deliver very respectable performance if your on a tighter budget. Check out our YouTube video on a scenario that has some similarities to you. We used a Ubiquity Loco M2 and a 2nd Router, attached it wirelessly 400Ft away to power a 2nd residence. We have a follow up video where working on where we use 2 links and gain even more throughput. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCCEbOnZzrI

Hope this helps, if you send me over a picture of your properties layout I can whip you up a diagram to help.

John Cleveland

Jul 30, 2022

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Thank you. I have got the system working pretty well. I set up the dish on a dam with a big view, ordered the 150 ft dish-router cable which was just enough to get to the shelter which has power. I will bury that in conduit. I bought the ethernet adapter and ran a cat6 cable, about 250 feet +/-, to an eero router in the cabin, which feeds a mesh network there. I typically get 60-90 MB down and 5-15 up, but I have seen as high as 275 down. This will be replaced by direct burial cat6 that I will bury in the run to the cabin. I did not disable the Starlink Wi-Fi. The Ethernet adapter intercepts the satellite signal before the Starlink router, but still also passes it through to the Starlink router. This gives me a Wi-Fi network out around the dam.

BTW, the first Ethernet adapter from Starlink was defective. At best, it only passed 10-15MB, and often -0-. Eventually, Starlink replaced it with one that does fine.

At some point, we would like to do something like your Ubiquity setup to get internet to some other buildings, but that may take some complicated linking because of trees in the path. For one of them, I may have a more friendly path from the Starlink router location, but that would probably require a switch after the Starlink Ethernet adapter to feed that link, since there is only one ethernet port on the adapter. And there are still some, thought fewer, trees to deal with on the path.

May 16, 2022

My office and home are in two separate buildings about 200 feet apart through 2 concrete block walls. I installed a mesh system in both buildings and have been communicating with each other. The result is that I have starlink in both buildings at 150 to200 down.

May 16, 2022

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Hello Lex, what kind of meshing system did you use for this?

May 15, 2022

Great, thanks for letting me know...

May 14, 2022

May 13 update

What I have learned.

Putting a power booster on the line to the router or on the second line from the router ( was looking to connect to my erro system) Failed.

I used the beta app in the Starlink app to test reception and the best reception came in with the provided parts. In essence it can not be pushed beyond its original design.

As a stand alone small area provider it works super. High speeds etc.

Trying to tie it into a network or expand the coverage have failed.

It appears I might be getting better hand off between satellites. Maybe the recent launches

I suspect the coverage area of the router changes during the day for tonight I was able to connect in my office which has not worked previously. I was setting up a hotspot with my phone and the computer auto connected to starlink and the work vpn. Amazing. Might be I am the only one home now.

Love to see a whole house solution and improved satellite handoff, we will see when the leaves open for spring on the trees.

At this point I am stopping my efforts to improve the coverage. I am out of ideas.

Will continue to monitor the forum. Hope this helps others

May 15, 2022

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@norm quinn Thanks for sharing Norm!

I have a couple jobs coming up with a similar scenario as you. I’ll keep you up to date with our solutions.

May 04, 2022

Larry Morrow

Apr 06, 2022

new to the site, should get my dish this week. is it ok to bury the cable without protection? or should i put it in PVC?

May 04, 2022

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Hello Larry, welcome to the site. I'm going to say yes to this for either system Gen 1-2. That being said it is always good practice to protect the cable, running conduit will also prevent critters form accessing it as well as it being crushed by heavy weight or damaged by sharp objects. The other nice feature of running conduit is if you ever have to replace the cable it can be done without digging it up, just pull it through. So I recommend PVC if you have it as an option. Your going to need 1 1/2 ID at least to get the large Starlink connectors through. Hope this helps.

Apr 05, 2022

Just thought I give an update on the system.

Good news is the satellite is working, I have a temporary cable running from the junction box to the router which is propped against a high level window against the house. The router line is run attached to tree limbs from a shed. Naturally a storm came and two limbs fell on the line yanking the router to the ground which was then buried in snow storm. The router is well made.

In this time gap I obtained a new error connection box and connected to the router. The unit shows on the app but is non functional. I am guessing the line is too long to power the erro. The prior erro no longer works. I am guessing the failure was likely in the router or possible the longer line I used to get it into the house. That is a to be determined.

Next Steps - Any thoughts?

The new erro was tested off site and set to bridge before installation. There are postings stating that moving it to bridge mode deactivates setting up a network. Anyone with experience ? I will reach out to erro as well.

The system has sensitivity to changing cable distances between units. A possible power enhancer, if one existed might boost the signal strength, anyone seen or tired one?

Once the snow melts, I will re-run the lines and try and make a direct shot to the house or as close as I can get using the original equipment. That likely means all parts will have to be outside. Protecting them is a TBD

If starlink puts out a network system as an add on, that would be a game changer. There were some posts that one was in development.

I do run an erro system at another location and it is a great product. It is almost plug and play.

Welcome any comments or sharing of thoughts.

Thanks

Matthew Fitzner

Apr 10, 2022

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Hey Norm,

I know you can purchase POE injectors which can help over long distances or if you are only running a Cat cable from a non POE network switch. As long as you have somewhere to power up such a device off of your AUX port (Gen 1) at a point between your house and the device you are trying add to the network.

I am not familiar with the eero technology myself but have heard good things about the products.

I may not have the total picture of your setup but I hope that is helpful in some way.

Does anyone else have thoughts on Norms questions?

Apr 10, 2022

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@Matthew Fitzner Thanks for sharing your insights. Will share results at a later point after I re-run the line.